[Accepted] Holydin Social App

Decision · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:25 pm

First Name:Steven
Age:15
Gender:Male
Location:London

WoW Character Name:Decísion
Your Class:Paladin
Professions:JC and Enchanting

Armory link (please be logged with your main spec and gear): http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet ... %C3%ADsion

What kind of replacements for current gear are you looking for? The main peice of gear i'd want to replace is my first trinket, it's a little outdated, and theres better SP ones for my current spec.

Are you willing to respec to benefit raids? Yep

What is your rotation? Fol and HS are my only two spells i use =p

Got any WWS to show us? If not, how much dps /hps you usually do in raids ? nope

Whats your total time /played in WoW? 39 days and rising.

Are you able to attend raids from 19.15 - 23.30 Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday? If ever needed, I'm open.

Are you able to bring your own 4 flasks and buff food to every raid? I am indeed, for others I can make buff food and fishys etc.

What raids have you done in Pre-TBC and TBC? Only raided on my mage in TBC and got as far a Kara and nearly ZA, but most of my experience is from fun runs.

What raiding experience do you have in Wotlk ? Naxx10/25 Ony 10/25 VoA 10/25 (not seen the new boss as i've just came back to wow since it's been out) Ulduar 10 (7/12) 25 ( 10/12) ToC 10 and HC, 25 ICC 10 First 2 wings cleared and the Blood Princes 25 Up to Putricide, got to 48%.

Do you currently have any other applications pending to some other guild(s)? nope

In what guilds have you previously been in and why you left? I was previously in ZT

Why do you want to leave your current guild? I was kicked from ZT because my computer had a week of not being able to work in raids, I took a week out to sort it out, and when i got back, i was kicked, with notice to the GM about the absence.

What do you expect from Sín?a happy surrounding with hardworking raiders.

What would you bring to Sín? someone who is willing to help in raids if needed, and a nice guy

Do you have any lvl 80 (or close to it) alts worth mentioning, name(s)? none of any decentcy

What addons do you use ? PP, DBM, Clique + Grid, Omen, Gcal and many others for entertainment mostly

Do you lag alot and/or get odd dc's ? (Be honest we will find out anyway) nope

Do you have Ventrillo, do you have a mic, and can you use both? Yep to both

Who do you know from Sín who could vouch for you? Dragontank, Phoenix and Val

What achievement are you most proud of? MY favourite Ach that i've got is my Netherwing Ach, it took me almost a week of dailys and egg farmining to get, and no sleep ;p

Anything else we should know about you? This App is strictly for Social Member status, i want to try and settle down somewhere where i know some good friends on wow, i've given up raiding.

Pala · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:42 pm

I dont like the way how you just ditched us to be fair.

We invited your druid which was slightly undergeared and got it into nice gear.
After you got bored of your druid we helped you gear your pally and let you raid with it,
but then you just run away when the guild that helped you so much isnt having one of his best moments,
Without trying to find a solution or anything for it. :cry:

Silent · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:02 pm

Your application confuses the hell out of me, applying for social reasons, I would not think it would be to hard for you to figure out that Pala speaks for the majority of people in the guild you have been here you have seen it after Nord left we dont have anytime in this guild for people who quit so how exactly are you applying on a social basis when the majority of people would be less than happy to see you come back I think I can safely say and count myself amoungst them. So what exactly are you hoping to achieve because going by past experience I assume you would join us be asked to help out from time to time in the guild couple of weeks/months pass you get bored you leave and work at pursuading some of the friends you made here in the mean time to leave with you because you wouldnt believe the amount of people have stepped forward and said they have been asked and approached by an ex sinner or two to consider joining zeto etc.

So one good reason why we should even think twice and consider letting you in? I've yet to hear one from anybody.

Erepal · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:57 am

Basically what Pala and Silent said.
You used us to gear up two of your characters and then just left when the guild was going through some rough times.
And now you want to re-join as a "social member". Sorry, but I'm not buying that.

After all Sín has done for you, you left, took a tour around the realm and applied to various guilds, which apparently didn't work out.
You say you have given up on raiding, but to me this looks like a desperate attempt to get back into the one guild that actually worked for you so you can at least get to raid every now and then.

You burned that bridge a long time ago.

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:49 am

Ok >> to clear up the "ditching you in a rough spot" I didn't leave because sín was stuck in raiding, if you ask jinxy, i spoke to her and said about me going to horde a good week or two before leaving, the reason I came back was because clearly after the first week it was a shitty choice to make, and when I was randomally offered a spot to ZT i took it to get out of horde and the crappy guild I was in. Me leaving after being geared up wasn't the idea of what I wanted to do, if anything "farming" a guild for gear is retarded, so ya >.>

Silent your probably still pissed at me because you told me Skychaser rubbed something in Jinxy's face and he clearly didn't, you then tried to convince me he did and make me guilty, which clearly failed, so you're obv not happy that didn't work for you. The reason I "applied" on a social basis is because jinxy told me i'd need to, so I thought i'd try to see who still actually liked me >.> didn't expect i'd get in, but if you don't try how will you know.

To erepal -- A desperate attempt in getting back in raiding? if you've seen me hanging in IF a lot when i manage to get on, i clearly havn't touched a raid instance, not even the raid weekly, why? "I've given up raiding" I don't expect to raid, i don't want to raid, but i said i'm there if needed.

dragontank · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:13 pm

I was not around at the time deci left to go horde and when he joined ZT

But i have had alot of great times raiding with him
and i would love to see him back in the guild

Valarr · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:55 pm

I agree with Dragontank

I mean, there is maybe some debate about the terms of him leaving, but can anyone say when he was in the guild he wasn't a good raider?

Overall, a good person and a potentially well geared healer

Of course it depends on the majority and the Raid leader, but that's my two cents

Silent · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:02 pm

Ok >> to clear up the "ditching you in a rough spot" I didn't leave because sín was stuck in raiding, if you ask jinxy, i spoke to her and said about me going to horde a good week or two before leaving, the reason I came back was because clearly after the first week it was a shitty choice to make, and when I was randomally offered a spot to ZT i took it to get out of horde and the crappy guild I was in. Me leaving after being geared up wasn't the idea of what I wanted to do, if anything "farming" a guild for gear is retarded, so ya

The reason I "applied" on a social basis is because jinxy told me i'd need to, so I thought i'd try to see who still actually liked me >.> didn't expect i'd get in, but if you don't try how will you know.

Why didnt you speak to jinxy and apply when you discovered the horde side was a bad idea we all make mistakes mistakes are forgiven but ultimately you left joined another guild didnt work out, joined another guild they kicked you out and now your back again so we are third choice?

Val theres no doubting he's well geared but he left us first for the horde side and then for another guild from which he was kicked and is now applying to come back here, its like your wife leaving to see how things are in another country not liking it coming back and shacking up with your neighbour untill he kick's her ass out. Would you take her back because when she was your wife she was a good cook and she knows what you like and not knowing that when she has left once what guarentee is there ever they wont bail again. We know new recruits have the same chance but you have to trust people untill they give you reason not to and in my mind Deci has.

Pala · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:44 pm

Indeed as silent says,theres no doubt hes good enough blahblah but as said the way he left was terrible..

Decísion · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:54 pm

Okie, fair point silent, I can't really argue much againest that, ->BUT<- the reason I didn't apply back right away is because i couldn't actually get out of the horde for the next 2 weeks, as I spent the last bits of my money going horde, and when I did eventually get the money, I was randomally offered a spot into ZT, I took it so fast because horde had s**** all to do, and didn't really think of much else, but when I got into it wasn't really the raiding missed >.>

knossos · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:59 am

hm emotions running hot in this topic i see

Anyways i stick as always with our officers and guildmaster, that being said like Silent said we all make mistakes once and a while.
I'ts not unheared if u make one mistake that often prompts one or two more till it goes outta control before u ever even knew what u did wrong in the first place.
So i can see how things may have gone downhill without any intent of being an arse intentially, but that also doesn't get u off the hook totally ofc, u are like everyone responsible for ur actions and may have to learn and live with whatever our officers and guilmaster see fit.
U should have anticipated how this would feel like to the others who did "stick" by Sín.

Anyway's i would advise everyone not to be to emotional here and not take everything what the other says apart, s**** happens

(as a matter of fact its happening right now....laterz)

Silent · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:33 pm

Personally would like to hear what the boss lady has got to say, personally I find it hard to excuse totally what happened yes everybody makes mistakes and sometimes they snowball but as knoss said dont get you completely off the hook as for what I said to you when you were leaving Deci I had a reason for saying that ask me in game sometime if you ever wanna know the truth of it I'll take you from my ignore list. From a strictly neutral point of few personal feelings aside we all know great healer and has skillz and the guild could potentially use a healer or two atm with Lenix seeming to be awol I wouldnt be opposed if it was decided to give him the benefit of the doubt am not much inclined to like him just now but not gonna go out of my way to make things hard for him either. Your call Jinx

Magesha · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:33 pm

Waiting for what tha boss will be saying, i'd say reinv him.
Not only for he's a gd healer but he can be nice, but like all 15-year old boys i know u can make some mistakes.
Especially because now again we r kinda stuck in the 25 man, because a little lack of healers.
The new few might help, but i think that guild progress should be more important than a dumb mistake in the past and i think we cud really use him in our raid team and start looking to the future. (Lich King here we come!)

Pala · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:44 pm

Im still against it tbh as the 'mistake' made is too big.

Phóeníx · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:49 pm

Ok please don't hate me for this, but I've been my usual Lazy self and actually never bothered making an account on here, so just waiitng for my response for the account to be confirmed.

Anyhow our Boss asked me to respond to this lil "emotional" thing (As Our skunk said) going on here, So first off I've kept in contact with Deci long since he left, I belive we have many other people in this guild who would like him back and others....not so much. I'm sure he has turned over a New Leaf and I for one would quite like to have him back on Sin, He's said he has given up raiding and he is mainly just doing PvP now, I usually get bored quite easily when there's no one to talk in Guild chat (Unless it's Ere talking about killing the squirrels), So I would assume Deci just get's bored also, It may have been a big mistake on leaving, but we all do, don't we?

My Vote is Yes on taking im back, but we all await the message the Boss has to say.

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