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 Post subject: [Accepted] Protection pally
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:31 am 

First Name: Ramon
Age: 33[/color]
Gender: Male]
Location: USA now - Netherlands in 5 weeks

WoW Character Name: Damageinc
Your Class: Tankadin
Professions: Mining 450/450 Enchanting 450/450 Cooking 450/450 First Aid 450/450

Armory link (please be logged with your main spec and gear): http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&cn=Damageinc

What kind of replacements for current gear are you looking for? Everything that's not T10 for now

Are you willing to respec to benefit raids? No. I have Healdin OS which I would be happy to gear up (current GS 4783) though

What is your rotation? AS - 69696

Got any WWS to show us? If not, how much dps /hps you usually do in raids ? DPS as tank around 2.5k

Whats your total time /played in WoW? On this toon 39 days 8 hours 15 minutes 36 seconds....give or take :wink:

Are you able to attend raids from 19.15 - 23.30 Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday? Currently only Sunday (6 hours time difference), in 5 weeks: yes

Are you able to bring your own 4 flasks and buff food to every raid? Sure

What raids have you done in Pre-TBC and TBC? TBC...? What is that?

What raiding experience do you have in Wotlk ? TOC10 5/5 - TOC25 5/5 - Uld10 6/14 - TOGC 1/5 - ICC10 3/12

Do you currently have any other applications pending to some other guild(s)? Do I need to?

In what guilds have you previously been in and why you left? Fearless....haven't left yet

Why do you want to leave your current guild? Because I can't be in 2 guilds at once

What do you expect from Sín? Fun & Raids, I think that sums it up pretty well

What would you bring to Sín? Do I have to bring anything? Sounds like a Dutch party :lol:

Do you have any lvl 80 (or close to it) alts worth mentioning, name(s)? Majestica (Arcane Mage)

What addons do you use ? DBM, PP, Recount, Omen

Do you lag alot and/or get odd dc's ? (Be honest we will find out anyway) I don't wanna jinx it, but...no

Do you have Ventrillo, do you have a mic, and can you use both? Sounds complicated, but I'd have to say yes

Who do you know from Sín who could vouch for you? Mofisto, Anabolictic, Knossos, Excaliburden (really...they're all different personalities....ask him)

What achievement are you most proud of? Not really into those....but I'd have to say "Level 80" was the hardest

Anything else we should know about you? Think you know everything but my PIN by now


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 Post subject: Re: Protection pally
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:47 am 
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AMG what a total noob, i don't even know the b****** DECLINEDx10 :P

Nah seriously this is my brother in law, but even better my best friend.
I can and will vouch for him as being a very nice person (though some may not get the humor in the app coz its typical dutch).

Hes put a lot of effort in hes pally (wich i did not help with btw, its all hes own work), and hes about raid rdy for at least our ten men grps i say.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:45 am 
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"Willing to respec?" : No, unless u gear me up.
"Can u raid our raiding days?" : No, gimme 5 months.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: etc..

The best answer is what you say about why you want to leave your current guild :|

Accepted.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:47 am 
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Oh FFS it's like having 2 Knossos'es'es'es'es ... as if 1 isnt enough


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 Post subject: Re: Protection pally
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:54 pm 
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Yay there can never be too many knossosssesssssss .... But i dont believe a word about u not helping him knoss or actually i do, cause if u helped him he would suck big time :P
damn regretting leaving now even more, more dutchies in the guild is always better.
well at least i can come on my druid to hear u out about knoss, ofc i only wanna know the really dirty and secret stuff like whats his fav movie and does he snore mhuahaha ... give us some stuff to throw at him when he makes us wipe by going boom ;)

best of luck in the guild, Sín rules bigtime!!!
but why u leaving the usa to come live here is beyond me, Its such a beautifull country

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:09 pm 
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Hi and welcome :)

I hope you'll have a great time in our midst.

Some little suggestions about the gear/talents:

You could think about changing the hit/stam or dodge/stam gems to full stamina gems as getting the gem bonus isn't always that important. Your hit rating will come with new gear you'll pick up. Hit rating isn't as important as it is for warriors though getting it to the cap is always great. You could change the enchant on your weapon to Accuracy (+25 hit) if you really want to keep some of it.
The vindication talent (in retribution) is also recommended as that helps a lot in incoming damage and you don't have to have a warrior or bear nearby with demoralizing shout/roar up.

Enough with my nitpicking! Have fun in Sin!

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 Post subject: Re: Protection pally
PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:36 pm 

Thank you for accepting me Vicky & thank you for welcoming me Wahwah & Kerstster :)

@ Wahwah - I was under the impression that I need to try and get my avoidance up to 102% (curr. 80%), so that's why I have been gemming with dodge+stam. Will the avoidance come with the better gear then? So would you always take HP over avoidance? Or is there a certain point where you stop gemming for HP and start increasing avoidance?

As for the talent tree, that used to be my spec, until I read on some forum that it could be useful to give up vindication for Seal of Command for trash tanking. That's what I was trying now and I have to say for trash (and HC) tanking it has been awesome. It generates and insane amount of threat. So you think I should go back to adding vindication again?

@ Kerstster - I am leaving the US, cuz my job here is finished. I only moved here for a temporary porject, which is ending now, but I agree: IT SUCKS...! The US is an awesome country. On the upside...since I will be back in the same time zone I will get to go raiding (if Vicky still wants to take me after my lousy application) :oops:

And yes....I will bring you all the secrets I have on Knos (trust me...we will need at least 100 raids to get it ALL out there). But....on a wipe? I thought Sín never wiped.

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Anyways...thanks for having & welcoming me and I am sure Sín is going to be a fun place to hang out :)


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:34 pm 
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as i understand it you dont need to be 102% which was previously to be uncrushable, so when in doubt, stack stam. Also, vidication isnt so much needed especially in raids (warriors/druids have demoralizing shouts) and it doesnt lower your damage received by anything ground breaking. keep SoC, its the s**** for trash tanking :P.

Btw, I r teh amirecanz! Living in California atm, and its kinda nice raiding at 10:30 in the morning :D.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:01 pm 
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Omg u got me so curious right now about all of knos secrets... really is a shame the project has ended but at least u can always go back on holiday.
I dont mind wiping btw as long as u keep those secrets coming rofl

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Mindy Macready: Can I get a puppy?
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Mindy Macready: Yeah, a cuddly fluffy one, and a Bratz movie-star make over Sasha!
[laughs]
Mindy Macready: I'm just fucking with you Daddy... I'd love a bench made model 42 butterfly knife!
Damon Macready: [relieved] Oh, child... You always knock me for a loop!


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ofc i'm gay....i mean why else would u write me all them love notes Tups? :P

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I'll let Tups and Knoss have their romancing and simply answer about the technical stuff :)

I'm a big believer of avoidance but TOC and ICC don't seem to like it as much. The raid tanking stats seem be nowadays about stamina and armor. You will need to survive 1 or 2 very big hits without being reliant on healing and or 'random' avoidance for a few seconds. So ditching dodge for stamina is one of the things to do. You see the thinking blizzard does in the changing of the stats of the pally T10, where some avoidance was skipped for a load of extra armor.
The uncrushable 102.4% rule isn't really important anymore for tankadins. If you are uncrushable, so much better but it's not mandatory anymore. Heroic TOC Anubarak is only place where being uncrushable is useful but that's about it.

My suggestion about the Vindication talent is a suggestion. The last few points are there to experiment with and I personally believe that I should bring as many tools to a raid as I can and don't rely on other people to bring their spells, because they might not be there.
Of course Omega is right that Seal of Command is great in massive packs of trash and for heroics, but I mostly do raids and I didn't pick up the talent. (I never really liked heroics except with people I know. It saves me from getting laughed at because of low DPS (as a tank!) or having bad words with people from Ascendance because I fucked something up and they felt the incredible need to point that out in a rather rude way).

After checking my own talents I'm thinking I might even take the SoC talent just for the trash stuff in ICC. Even though I haven't had any big problems with trash sofar but keeping those aggro hogs like Erepal and Asque of my back is always better. Saves them from using aggro drops :)


But after that wall of text: I don't want to imply you are doing anything wrong, as you did all the right stuff. No weird gemming, strange enchants or moronic gear choices. So everything after that is simply discussion :)

I understand from a reliable source you're already in the guild, so I see you online!

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